Interview with Chris Roxx: The American Debt Slave

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Today, we are joined by Chris Roxx, creator and host of the American Debt Slave podcast. We’ll be discussing his thoughts on the current global situation, crypto, and the Great Reset agenda. Thanks for coming on. Chris. How’s it going?

Chris R 1:19
Doing Well, thank you for having me.

George Papp 1:21
Thanks for coming on, man. I mean, you were passed over to me actually by one of the guys at Cryptonomous. Nelson,who you know well, he’s been on your podcast as well. And I instantly thought, you know, let’s have a conversation, because you’ve obviously got, you know, a lot of info in regards to what’s come sort of currently going on, I think it’s a good time to discuss with you. And obviously, where we’re both sort of doing podcasts on similar niche. So yeah, I thought we would all jump in, I think, to be honest, this jump into your story. And I guess how you got into this side of the alternative space, how you obviously came to start the podcast as well. And yeah, just give a background on yourself?

Chris R 2:08
Well, let’s just say I’ve been red pilled, since I was about 10 years old, my father lived outside the system revoked and rescinded his social security number God rest his soul. He taught me that income taxes are voluntary. And that was my very first conspiracy theory. He used to lock me in my room during Friday night parties with the IRS code. And he’d said, go ahead and define the definition of income. And then he’d locked the doors, and then come back in an hour, open it up and say, did you find it know exactly, now go to your party. So I would meet people at Friday night parties just sitting in the driveway, talking to them, you know, in a circle saying you don’t have to pay your income taxes, it says it right on the back of your W two, the very first thing it says in small print is you are not required to file period. And it’s just like, really Yeah. And so I didn’t know that when you get a job and you sign the paperwork, don’t sign one and clean yourself, go down to box seven, and put exempt right in exempt and then sign the bottom. Now they’re going to come back to you and say, Well, you could have to pay at the end of the year. And I say that’s fine, no problem, let me have all my money. And that way I can invest it and do this and do that with that money. And then I’ll pay him. And immediately the company’s I didn’t know this until I had my own company that they are more than willing to do that they even gave me a raise at Pizza for doing so they said don’t tell anybody, but we’ll just give you an extra dollar raise on top, really. And that back then was 515 an hour. So I got 615 an hour answering the phones at pizza. And that was good money and I got all my money except for FICA and Medicare but no income taxes. And I’ve never filed I choose not to file I choose to live outside the system. The only downfall to that is you cannot get traditional financing for a home you must get rich. And that is where crypto comes involved in crypto, and how you can take it out of the system away from the system and build our own economy with that. My biggest fear about crypto is that it is the mark of the beast and that’s our cashless society. And I was a little worried about that. But then these privacy tokens come out and we’ll see where the that that environment is going. But yeah, I’ve just been kind of living free and paying rents and you know, building businesses here and there. But I mean, I’ve gotten letters from the IRS saying hey, you owe $80,000 Please sign here and I’m like, Whoa, that’s contract law, buddy. I’m not gonna do in shit with that. Because once you wave your hand my father always said yes, no problem. I’m a slave, please don’t hurt me. Then they have you then they can take you to court then they have evidence against you. You’re pretty much giving your you’re giving up all of your information and claiming that they have ownership over you. And you don’t it’s a straw man concept with maritime admiralty law. I mean, I wouldn’t go down that rabbit hole is a huge one, but It’s all there on the internet, people have done much better information than than I could ever do during this podcast. But if you guys are actually interested in doing that just look up income taxes or voluntary checkout, who’s that one guy? Peter Schiff, his father, Irwin Schiff, he who was in jail died in jail a cancer because he refused to wave his hand and say, I’m a slave. And that guy went around and did seminars and taught people how not to file and encouraging people not to file. And my father said, don’t, don’t, don’t be a target, you know, avoid it, there’s a difference between tax avoidance and tax evasion. Okay, you can evade taxes by using the system using credit fraudulently filing, you know, lying on your income taxes, or you just don’t even participate and you live off cash, gold, silver and crypto.

George Papp 5:53
Yeah, there’s solutions out there. And so many people don’t know, any of this stuff, common law and, and obviously, taxes and all that. I mean, I urge everyone like, like you said, to really look into that. Because you can, it’s not evading it’s, it’s actually you’re right, and you just need to know the right ways of going about it. Get stuck in you know, potentially their their jaws basically. Right. Right. Yeah. I mean, going back to what you were talking about with, with, I think we should go to the privacy crypto stuff, actually, I think and like crypto itself. And, I mean, I was a big crypto fan, you know, Bitcoin as well, and all of this sort of transparent coins. And then after a while, kind of like seeing promotions of crypto everywhere in the mainstream. Even there was bad press, obviously. But like, even just like sponsoring stadiums, and having like, all this advertising everywhere, and then it kind of made me wonder if it was a solution, and something that would be against the system, they wouldn’t really be allowed to do any of this. So it kind of got me thinking myself actually about is Bitcoin, just the sort of Trojan horse basically into the CB DC world? And what are your thoughts on that on Bitcoin? And the transparency coins before we move on to the privacy coin?

Chris R 7:14
Well, I, I got into bitcoin in late 2017, when it reached $1,000.20, grand real quick, within like a month, right? Got in late. This is me off every time. Sorry.

George Papp 7:28
But I know you’re going earlier than me to be fair.

Chris R 7:32
Well, you know, you have another chance to get in at 3002. And for a while. But things are things are very crazy with that. But I think what they’re doing with crypto and Bitcoin as an like, it’s pumping and pumping and pumping, people are going to realize that this is good. Let me get in on this. Let me give up my cash for this digital currency that keeps keeps going up in value, make it really attractive for the mainstream. Look, it keeps going up you guys look, it keeps going up. You guys got to get into this. Everyone gets into it. And then okay, cool. Great. Now we all have it, boom, now we got your rug poll, boom, you’re all broke. Oh, and you don’t have cash anymore, by the way, you traded your gold, your silver and your cash for this digital currency that we now control. And you cannot go and shop at Walmart only on Tuesdays and Thursdays between the hours of four and eight and you can’t get that pizza, you’re gonna have to eat roaches instead. So that’s the control grid, I see that they want to happen. But I also think that they weren’t planning for the internet. And they weren’t planning for us to talk like this across oceans at the same time. And that we can now get out the word and put out our own opinions and our own observations of what’s happening to us locally, and putting it all together. And people are like, Oh, okay, hold on. So that’s why they created the privacy token. And building that I’m really, really liked. Darrow. I love that Darrow is setting up a whole entire like L one system. I don’t even know what it is. But there’s like the Aetherium of privacy tokens where you get to build on top of that. And I’m like, okay, cool. I don’t have much of it. But I mean, why not throw 50 bucks a month towards some other bucks towards this or 50 bucks towards that. Something you can afford to lose? Don’t mortgage your house for crypto, that’s silly. All I want is a house if I can get a house cash somewhere in the middle of nowhere, and just not participate in the economy. That would be wonderful. That would be absolutely wonderful. I hate working jobs. I love working for myself. I’ve been working my for myself for I don’t know the past 15 years more than that even I mean I was washing windows. Then I got in to online sales. And then I just went into online and that’s that’s where the money is that is really building a community and being able to have a product to service that community something that they like, I’m in between businesses right now thinking of what I could do what I could sell, and a good product that people on this podcast or anything would resonate with. So I’m thinking about selling ozone drops and supplements b 12, some iodine, and some ozone machines if you don’t know anything about activated oxygen, whew, that’s a whole nother rabbit hole. We can go down on my friend that stuff saved my life within 10 minutes coughed up 24 Black Luby’s and cured my lung cancer, boom, done, totally illegal in the United States to get it done. But I found someone right down the street that’s willing to do it. And I’m like, Oh, my God, and he turns the corner. Like, I’ve only seen cancer patients do that. When I was a little did he know that? Before I went to go see him. I went to a doctor and did a live blood analysis and it was riddled with cancer cells. And I’m like, that’s why I collapsed in my kitchen. Okay, we’re not going to do this anymore. So I quit smoking, quit vaping and got into ozone. And when I did that my vape business kind of dwindled, and fell down and plateaued, because I just wasn’t resonating with it energetically. So I need to find a product that I resonate with.

George Papp 10:55
That. That’s really interesting. I’ve not ever heard of that type of therapy. No, it’s been in Germany

Chris R 11:01
for over 100 years. Wow. That’s where it came from?

George Papp 11:05
How easy it is. How easy is it to sort of get hold of for someone who might be want to try that?

Chris R 11:12
Well, you’re in Athens, you’re in Europe, right? Yeah. Oh, man, you can just Google it now that hospitals in Germany that you can just walk into and get an IV done. Interesting.

George Papp 11:23
I mean, something to check out. I mean, if you if you had a good experience, you know, why not? Check that out? Obviously, do your own research,

Chris R 11:30
man, it’s it slows down the aging process. I’m 40 years old. If I had hair, I’d look a lot younger. But man, I tell you, I feel great. It’s ridiculous. I feel so good at 40 And yet, all of my friends are sick, gastroparesis, GI tract, bowel function, migraines. It’s just unbelievable type of stuff. A liver, what their livers are failing. I’m like, What the hell do you guys, and I’m just like I’ve been doing ozone for since 2015. So about seven years now. And I just did some this morning. 530 in the morning, man, it just feel freakin good. It puts you on a different vibration. We’re just feel wonderful. Now the machines do cost money about $3,300. But it’s worth every penny and it’ll last forever. It won’t ever break down. It’s just like it easy. It’s an easy machine. It’s like a like almost like a neon sign. That’s pretty much what a neon sign is, is ozone activated oxygen, but they’re taking it from the air instead of actual oxygen tank, you want to clean oxygen tank that goes through the machine and out the tube. And what the machine does, it puts another molecule on to 02. So it makes it 03, 04, 05 and 06 anything above 02 or three or higher is activated oxygen. And no virus, fungus or bacteria can live in an oxygen rich environment. And also repairs DNA.

George Papp 12:46
Nice one. I mean, guys, check. Check it out. Do your own research. See, see if it works for you. If you want to give it a go. Let’s move to thoughts on the current situation. And I guess where it’s headed, do you think things are as let’s say negative as some of the I guess the alternative space can push out some some fear porn? Do you think? You know, where’s it heading? Your thoughts on that? And is there hope because I always want to give hope because I always feel that there’ll be space and there will always be a way around everything. In my opinion, even in a dystopian future.

Chris R 13:27
Well, there is hope and death, because we’re all here at all of our destinies to die. And that’s what we came here for. And it doesn’t matter really in my in my way. If I’ve made it to 40 years, I really could die tomorrow and be happy, and I wouldn’t have to pay rent anymore. So that’s that’s me. As far as like, where it’s going after this, I feel that we’re brewing for something much, much bigger. deagle Do you remember deagle.com? They took down that website. And they used to predict, you know, by 2025. We’re gonna have like, what 300 was 300 million now. And they predicting down to like a couple 100,000 the United States by 2025. And the GDP is going to be extremely low. That hasn’t. We’re not at 2025 yet, but I was like always thinking well, how are they going to depopulate this many people that’s insane. They can’t bomb everybody what’s going on? And then the vaccines rolled out. And I’m like, Oh, shit. And right when this happened in March of 2020 when they’re locking everything down, you notice they did on the Ides of March to on March 15. And I ran into some woman in the parking lot at the grocery store. And you know, she took off her mask immediately. It was like, upset and like, oh, like I hate these masks too. She’s like, absolutely. And don’t you ever get tested and definitely don’t take the vaccine. I’m like, Whoa, she’s like, I’m a retired. I’m a retired doctor. I went to Texas a&m. Do not do any of that. Like, oh, thank you so much. So early. early on. I was like wow, okay, so There’s really something bigger going on in this. And then when the people started posting videos about the Bluetooth, and how the little miscellaneous codes and MAC addresses started coming up on their Bluetooth settings, I was like, No way. So I checked my bluetooth settings. I’m like, Oh my God, that’s That’s for real. And it freaked me out. If you go back and you see they’re all chipped on one of my videos, I literally had goose bumps on my arm because it was over 150 miscellaneous codes at Walmart. I’m just like, wow, and I can sit in a restaurant 7am On the first one there, no miscellaneous codes., as people walk in, boom, boom, boom, it starts populating, and you can stand it like traffic lights, and watch everybody drive by. And then there’s no cars, then there’s no miscellaneous codes, then there’s a stoplight and there’s a bunch of miscellaneous codes. So I don’t know if they’re going to activate this and people are just going to collapse. They could do it sporadically. Now that everyone’s chipped. They could say, oh, we have another breakout over here. Or they could actually say, Oh, it’s a dirty bomb. And it’s an EMP or something and you can’t go outside and they can boom, boom, you can remotely control all these people and just say, Look, you can’t do it over here. These people are dying because of this. And really, if there’s chips in there, then the radiation could just be emitted. And they could suffer from radiation poisoning because they’re chipped. And because it’s working with the 5g. I have no idea man, I have no idea.

George Papp 16:22
Yeah, it’s like now it’s okay. Now it’s like it could anything can happen now. And there’s nothing off the table right now when that’s what’s so basically you’re saying though, when you say when you’re on your phone, and you go on to Bluetooth, and you you literally put it on to search for Bluetooth, right? available devices, right? You’re seeing loads of miscellaneous codes, like loads of different codes when you’re in a populated area.

Chris R 16:51
Let’s see this. Here we go. Let me pull this up. And say I’m in my apartment. There are a couple people home and Bluetooth. And I’ll show you guys right here. repopulate searching devices. Boom, here we go. 123. I don’t know if you can see that. Can we see that? Yeah. But guys,

George Papp 17:13
guys on Spotify, their Spotify and audio there are balances about 4 or 5. About 4 misc codes there, which is very interesting. And that’s just my neighbors. Yeah, I’ll definitely have to check that out when I go to go to town or something.

Chris R 17:36
Yeah, and it doesn’t work on all phones. Mine is an older Androids and LG Q seven plus, I hear that there are apps or that you have to go into developer mode on Apple to be able to pull these up and see them. Not everyone can see them. So it’s very, very different. It’s just strange. I’m surprised these people are still walking around my friends got vaccinated, and you know, a magnet stuck to her. And then she got the second shot and the cell phone stuck to her. Like, why did you do this? And then she’s still got COVID

George Papp 18:07
Yeah, that’s also what happens now. Yeah. They said it wasn’t gonna you know, you won’t be able to get hit. If if you took the shot, right. Everyone’s getting. Yeah, I mean, the the lies keep coming. But in in another respect. How do you see the economy because obviously, we’re seeing that now the repercussions of the economy, which I was saying from right at the beginning, the economic situation from all this is going to be far worse than any disease, if you believe it exists, right is going to going to do is the economic situation because poverty and low jobs. Homelessness causes either illness or can’t actually eat so people starve and actually don’t even then causes stress. And that causes illness as well. So all of that situation in the economy. How do you see this coming up now? Because obviously, we have seen inflation going going wild right now? Are you predicting a sort of hyper hyperinflation event? to basically bring in the CBDCs in that sort of aspect?

Chris R 19:17
Well, I’ll tell you something very strange. When I was 10 years old, I had a dream that you’re going to live to 88 years old, you’re going to die in the year 2069 You can see everyone you know in love die starting with your parents. And both my parents died within three weeks of each other this past March. So I’m getting I’m gearing up for it. I don’t know exactly. I know I’m going to be okay. Whether I live in the city or not something that dream just kind of resonated with me. And I’m like, doesn’t matter if there’s bombs dropping that dream said I’m gonna lift ADA the bombs gonna miss me the bullets are gonna miss it’s just it’s not going to happen for me. So if you want to stay safe during the apocalypse here in Dallas, just stick with me. He’ll be fine. It’s very strange, very, very strange. They’re they’re going to depopulate I just don’t understand how but it could be famine. You know, it could be both it could they have to use multiple multiple lefties everything in their arsenal to get it down, but at the same time that they didn’t expect the internet, so I think that people are getting are wising up to it. And it may and may not happen. You know, I mean I’m still on the fence about it all I’m optimistic. Sure. But at the same time, I do believe that dark forces rule is golden. We’re, this is not our home, we’re just passing through. So don’t take anything too seriously. Yeah, and we’re here for the we have to be here for an experience my good my best friend Doreen, who died in 2009. You know, we do a lot of acid together back in high school and college. And he said, You think I’m black? You think you’re white? Dude, we’re just temporary human. We’re just spiritual beings having a temporary human existence. That’s all we’re just passing through buddy. Like, okay.

George Papp 21:04
That was before he had the pill. Ya know, to be honest, like that, I’ve had that sort of experience. Now I’m thinking, well, trying to get out of my head, actually, our thoughts because thoughts are, kind of realize that that’s programming, a lot of the thoughts that come into your head, the way to change your thoughts to be more aligned with, let’s say, the more positive energy or aligned with the forces above, is to try and get out of your mind. But yeah, in regards to that, I actually firmly believe that as well. It’s more of a feeling than a belief that we got to kind of get rid of belief systems is another thing. But yeah, I think we are passing through this world as a test as a spiritual experience. But we are ultimately not human. It’s not us, the body isn’t us the mind isn’t us. It’s just part of the experience that you’re having. If you go through that thought process, the fear kind of falls away. And you kind of live life a lot more Happy, go lucky. You’re not worried. You’re not paranoid. You just you know, get on with your life. And you know, if things go well, great if they don’t great as well, because this is just an experience. But try and do just try and do good on this world. And I think that’s probably what we’re here for. I think maybe the test is to be the best. A good person, in a sense, even through, you know, let’s say an apocalypse as we are in at the moment, really, because if you look at the what are the what are the sort of horsemen of the apocalypse is famine, economy, illness, and think war? Probably? Probably, will just, I think it was just death. Right? So it’s clear that we’re in that sort of that, let’s say story quotes, quotation marks there. So yeah, I guess how are you preparing for it? I mean, if you’re not preparing you might not be I think, if it’s just an experience, right, you don’t need to prepare. But how are you guess moving through this? Are you making preparations? Or are you just taking it by day?

Chris R 23:07
No, I got I got a year supply food little over a year supply of food, you know, that’s about it. You know, if things hit the fan, that’s what I got. Whether that’s going to be if people are gonna raid me for my food, like, Okay. I have no idea. I’ve never experienced it. Like I said, I’m just pretty much just a normal guy live in his day to day. And you know, hoping for the best. I mean, I go out for breakfast every morning, because I don’t know when’s the last time someone’s going to be able to serve me coffee? I tell you what, I wake up and wake up one day and like the kids are like, What do you mean, someone like just brought you coffee and bacon and eggs to your table? Like, yeah, for paper? Yeah. And yeah.

George Papp 23:51
Yeah. Yeah.

Chris R 23:52
What’s that? Like? You know,

George Papp 23:55
I think we’ve got long for that, right. A few years, I think, maybe, maybe even someplace.

Chris R 24:01
I told years ago that when inflation hits, it’s gonna get to the point to where it’s going to be pointless to go to work. Because what’s the point your money’s not going to not gonna go anywhere? And we’re seeing that now. People that we’re hiring, yeah, but if you’re not paying at least 2450 an hour, which is actually what minimum wage should be if you had like, what is it five silver quarters? You know, that’s what needs to be minimum wage. I think it’s like 1890 or 20s, between 1890 and $24 fluctuating. But, yeah, that I mean, I used to be able to even like in the year 2022 years ago, when I first got out of high school, I could get a studio apartment and work a job at like the grocery store and live just fine. When maybe my rent would be 300 bucks a month, my electricity would be at most 50 bucks. And you know, there was like cell phones $45 gas 99 cents, and it’s just gotten so bad that you know, these assets have been been bought up and everyone buying assets they’re safe. Bye Homes, you know, and I just wish I had a house. I mean, that would be wonderful to have a house and work a normal job and be able to just pay my taxes on the house. But then property taxes, good God that can go up to the value of the home. It’s You’re screwed no matter what, man. I mean, we live in a prison planet. You know, I love when I heard, why do we have to pay to live on a planet we were born on? That makes no sense. You know? And like, why do we have to constantly make this money? I mean, it is pretty much slavery. You know, you can, I mean, back in the day when there was slaves, you know, you they gave you food shelter, all you did is have to go out in the field and work. Now they don’t give you food and shelter, they give you money. So you can go buy food and shelter. It’s ridiculous. And they control the value of that money anytime they want. Let’s let’s make these slides a little bit poor today, print, print, print. Okay, and then they get that money first buy up all the assets, the assets going go up in price. And these people that create this economy, it’s just ridiculous. So I’m hoping with crypto, that that can change. But I just done not on. Like I said, it’s so new. I don’t know what’s going to happen with that. But cross your fingers, the only thing you can do is hope. And you know, breathe, relax, meditate, and we’ll let the opportunities come to you. And you know, it’s gonna be all right, no matter what.

Exactly. That’s a good message. And with the crypto thing, I think, actually using them is something that we need to I guess do if we want to have that community aspect with them. Think Manero and all those other coins. I mean, there are big fan and others like pirate chain, for example. start accepting them and using them to pay people that you’re doing work with or receive it, right? Because that’s the that’s the that’s the big goal of having these actually being a utility rather than an investment. Like, yeah, it could really increase in value in dollar terms. I don’t see that. But only because if it does exponentially grow like Mineiro flipped, but a Bitcoin where I’ve heard a few times. Yeah, surely, surely that won’t be allowed, right. And then basically, I just see an outright banning of privacy coins, in my opinion. But it doesn’t mean that the we can we can stop using them, we’ll continue to use them. But it’s definitely the utility that matters is basically using it to pay and receive. And we could use use this to have a sort of counter economy. I think that’s that’s a big solution that we can use. Now, is that is that something that you agree on? Potentially?

I would, I would, I don’t know. You’re right. If they if it does like that, I’ll see how they would let it flip Bitcoin and go up in price. I don’t know if they can control it. But I know that more people own it more people use it, the more value it has. If they want to do small transactions with that, I just don’t understand how they would enforce not using it. Yeah. They don’t know if it’s nowhere it’s at?

George Papp 28:02
Yeah, I think the only place the way they will ban it is centralized exchanges, which they’ve started to do anyway. Most not most people won’t have the nows or won’t want to look into actually finding it elsewhere, or won’t care that much to go and buy Mineiro from like some random decentralized exchange. But I think for people like us and people who want to use it as utility, I think, you know, we’ll still be able to find it. There’s always going to be ways around that. But yeah, I think it’s sort of a

Chris R 28:34
think about it, we’re we’re still in the infancy of it. I mean, we may not even live to see it, you know, but there’s kids growing up learning code, and how many decentralized exchanges can they make so many, so many? Shut one down, build another one, shut one down, build another one. And it just word gets around? They’d have to shut down the internet? And I don’t know if they’re ever going to do that. But they could definitely do that.

George Papp 28:55
Yeah, I think there can be a potential hacker event where they pretend there’s a hack from Russia or whatever. And then they you know, blame it on that. And then they can then bring in when they bring it back up. They enforce a digital ID or something because of any role. Whoever uses it needs to be ID and whatever. I can see something like that happen. But we have decentralized web as well. And I’m thinking that there will be solutions in that space, too. I think that’s very early on right now.

Chris R 29:26
I don’t know much about the decentralized Web. I’ve heard about it, but could you tell me more?

George Papp 29:32
I am not too familiar with it. But I know that there is a decentralized web being created. I know that there’s decentralized protocols, which actually look into to actually have it on the blockchain. So basically, you can’t actually ID someone it’s going to be very difficult as a decentralized platform to actually stop it from moving and happening and stop people from using it. However, I think more people have to use it to make it work better. So I guess spreading that message is something that needs to happen both. I’ll definitely leave it in the show notes because I need to find the name of that particular protocol, or particular app, basically, that I know something’s been built by looked at it about two years ago, and I haven’t revisited it. But that’s definitely something I’ll put in the show notes. Because it is something that we should start using if we’re wanting to be sort of free online.

Chris R 30:30
Right. Right. And could you imagine a world where they shut down the internet? I mean, if they I don’t know about you, but I’m addicted to my phone. I’m addicted to this digital crack. And if they shut it down, I mean, everyone’s gonna walk out their house just like, whoa, hey, what’s your name? I don’t know. I’ve only been living next to you for five years. Never met you before. Oh, hi. And let’s have a barbecue go. Awesome. Here’s a beer. Great. Let’s go back to the 90s. Baby. Cheers. You know, I mean, yeah,

George Papp 30:57
to be honest, like this stuff, this stuff has its good points for spreading messages and, and, you know, having conversations from, you know, distances and making a community from far. But the negatives, I think do outweigh the positives, in my opinion. I actually feel like I can live off grid right now. And just basically grow my own food, decentralize the food, decentralize the power. And let’s be honest, that’s how we probably should live. In my opinion. We’ve just outsourced all of our lives basically, like everything, food, water, just, everything’s outsourced. And we will let someone else do it. And what happens is the centralization causes these issues, and this is where he asked. So if rice centralize and start becoming autonomous, again, this is a massive solution. And that’s what I’m aiming for. I’m trying to live off grid myself as well.

Chris R 31:49
Right? I mean, back into like, the 60s and 70s. I think the kids could graduate high school, being a plumber, being electrician, knowing how to build a house. I don’t know anything about that stuff, man. I mean, like I said, I just outsource that here. I pay somebody to do that. And I don’t need to learn it myself. So I really know nothing. It’s once you get to that, like you want to get wise enough to know that you don’t know that’s wisdom. Like I don’t know. You go down the rabbit holes like I really don’t know anything this is especially when you get into flatter, expand, don’t even we’re talking about but oh my gosh. Oh my gosh, I never even thought about that. Like you’re crazy. I’m gonna laugh at you. Well, what? What I was programmed to laugh at that. Oh, I didn’t think about that. So to go back to, you know, getting away from negative energies and stuff like that, like program your mind because everything you think you have original thought we don’t. We don’t. I’m making this podcast. Why? Because I’ve seen other people do it. So I got the idea to do it. You know, I didn’t you don’t like Taco Bell. You don’t like McDonald’s, you’re told like McDonald’s to this little screen here. And then you like it, then you eat it. And it’s everything, everything, everything. So program your mind with anything that can propel you forward in life. Like I’m a, I’ve studied NLP for since 2013 to 2018 for five years. I’m an NLP practitioner. I know how to program the subconscious mind in order to achieve an outcome. It’s really scary stuff. It’s weird. It’s like fairy dust. I don’t do it too much anymore. But you’re always doing it, you’re always you’re always manifesting in with with the mind. And if you can program yourself with like, some good motivation in the morning, set the tone for the day, set your thoughts, right, and good things will come to you. But people are programmed with television. And when the internet came out, I was like, why are we watching television we have the internet. This is so cool. I love watching people with their crappy content talking about whatever’s going on in their life so much better than like, you know, Third Rock from the Sun or Simpsons or whatever programming they’re gonna give me and throw down my throat. You know, it’s not the show’s it’s doing. I mean, the shows are but their television is made for advertising. They put you in a trance during the show. And then boom cuts advertising, you need to buy this, you need to get this. I used to write down like types of commercials, they would they would tell me and by the end of the show, it’s pretty much telling me, you know, hey, I need to go buy this car and eat this and have this and be able to buy that. And you’d see like the people in the room. They’d get hungry after the show. I call him Anna wants some of that. Wow, they just advertised that to you five times in the last 30 minutes and you’re hungry for that you think that’s your own thought? You think you’re thinking that you really sure you’re hungry for that? Yeah. Okay.

George Papp 34:29
Yeah, it’s so deep. It really is.

Chris R 34:31
Yeah. It’s like I can’t tell people the truth unless it’s on the screen. So I’ll try to tell people that income taxes, blah, blah, but I’ll make a video about it. Let them watch the video and go Oh, wow. It takes the video. Like are you kidding me? Is it the flicker? Right? I don’t know.

George Papp 34:46
Yeah, I think the only way to have your own thoughts is like to seriously disconnect. Yeah, be silent. sit in silence. And that’s why it’s so important like this sort of, if it’s meditation, or if it’s like just walking in nature on your own But just do something like that. Even if it’s 1020 minutes a day, whatever, it really does make a difference. Like, you’ll start watching your thoughts. And you’ll be like, what? Like, what am I actually like? Is that Is that me? No. But if you’re, it’s not you because you’re actually seeing your thoughts. Like you’re actually looking at your thoughts, you’re seeing it move past. So you are not those thoughts. That’s the disconnect that you need to have. And I think to actually break out of it. So it’s really interesting. Yeah, I think that’s definitely something that you guys should should practice. If you haven’t already. This definitely helped me it sounds like it’s definitely helped you, Chris as well.

Chris R 35:36
Yeah, do you got to have like, different affirmations write it on your mirror, you know, goals that you want. I was like, when I was 22 years old, I was introduced to a leadership development organization that taught you long term thinking delay gratification, utilize the power of utilize the power of compounding. And what is the seventh wonder the world is compound interest, you know, invest, save 10%. And so they I went over to my mentors house and like, where’s your TV? And he’s like, I don’t have a television, I have a library. I’m like, Oh, okay. And like, what are all these, these these sayings, he would just put affirmations and he’d frame them. And he put them on his wall, like I have back here. I need to actually do that. But I write mine on my mirror. Like, I’m a millionaire. It’s possible to own a home, it’s possible to have another business, what kind of business do you want? You know, before I even started American debt slave, I put, I created the logo, and I put the logo right on the left side of my television, and I’m like, okay, maybe I’ll start that podcast someday, you know, but I kept looking and kept looking at it kept going until I started programming my own mind. And then I’m like, Okay, let me see what this can do. And then boom, like, Oh, interesting. Very, very cool. And I just decided to do that when Odyssey came about, and I’m like, okay, and they started kicking everybody off YouTube. I think I got almost 1000 subscribers on YouTube before they kicked me off. And I’m like, Okay, we’ll just move on over to Odyssey and just put some LBC on my channel and me up in the ranks and cool.

George Papp 37:03
Yeah, everyone who hasn’t checked Odysee, check it out alternative video platform. Obviously, you can’t censor on there. And it just works a lot better, and something to definitely look at. But yeah, my wife does that stuff as well. Those are sort of affirmations and writing stuff on the wall. At first, I was like, What the hell’s going on in this room? Like, it’s like, just pictures everywhere. There’s like writing on the mirrors. Yeah. But to be honest, at least half of the stuff that was written has happened. So yeah, I mean, I have to say it works for us as well. And just briefly, stuff that we’re doing hearsay, it does, it does have an impact. Yeah,

Chris R 37:46
it’s very strange how we broadcast and what we are broadcasting with our thoughts. I discovered when I was when I read the book, The Secret back in 2006. And I was living on my friend’s couch at 24 years old, not thinking I could ever have my own apartment and pay 750 a month. That’s just way too much money. I could never afford that. And lo and behold, I just like you know what, let me just put that up on there, even though I don’t believe it. And within like, a couple months later, someone called me up, Hey, you wanna get a two bedroom? This really nice place? And like, Fuck, yeah, really? I pay the same amount of rent here. Okay, cool. And then like, okay, it’s only 100 200 bucks for my own place. So I just moved into my own place after a year. And I’ve been here a while I just say, I’ve been trying to save up for a house, but the crypto market keeps going up and down, up and down. And business keeps going up and down. So I’m just happy to have a roof at this point right now with the economy.

George Papp 38:37
Yeah, man, I mean, people in their 30s back in like the 70s were able to like probably move to the second or third home. Yeah. Yeah. Now it’s like, I can’t get out of my mom and dad’s basement, basically is Yeah. Yeah, but we will be grateful for whatever happens. Chris, where can people find your work man?

Chris R 39:02
Are you can find me on odyssey.com Look up the American debt slave. If you want to join my telegram channel that link below is in the description below. Be part of the conversation if anyone wants to come on here and just have a conversation about what’s going on. Give their two cents about the world. See if you’re pulling up any miscellaneous codes on your phone. Just let’s have a discussion. Have some fun.

George Papp 39:26
Excellent. Chris, thank you very much for coming on. I look forward to potentially having you on in the future. Make sure you subscribe to the podcast so you don’t miss an episode. Share if you know someone who might be interested. Plus check out Yeah. Plus, check out the episode show notes for a link to crypto animus consulting.com. We aim to help you guys grow and preserve your wealth to have the potential to build away from the system. Also put all the links of Chris’s material in the show notes as well. So definitely check that out. Peace and love to you all. Thanks for listening.

Chris R 39:57
Take care. Thanks for having me.

George Papp 39:58
Take care, Chris.

The American Debt Slave: Chris Roxx

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Interview with Dr Robert Morse: Highway to Health with Naturopathy and Fruitarianism

George Papp 0:08
Hi, welcome to the Conscious Renegade Podcast with me George Papp, helping you to be the change you wish to see in the world.

Today, we’re joined by Dr. Robert Morse, who is a board certified and accredited naturopathic physician, a biochemist and herbalist. He is the founder of a naturopathic clinic, a herb pharmacy, and a school of detoxification, we’ll be discussing alternative health to live a healthier and ultimately have happier life. Also, on our side for strategies to preserve and grow your wealth ahead of the Great Reset and increase your privacy, music, crypto animus consulting.com/members, our basic subscription is as little as $10 per month. So, you know, that is very little really in regards to inflation currently. So, you know, a lot of information comes out of there. We have newsletters, live webinars with our experts, trade calls and current investments that we’re looking at. So please check that out. And yeah, just avoid getting destroyed by the coming economic collapse. So Rob, thanks for joining. How’s it going?

Robert M 1:31
Oh, superb, busy, crazy, you know, just that the world at large, just like you said, survival, helping people to survive in their health issues, but also their spiritual issues.

George Papp 1:44
Yeah, and I think health is a massive topic for the last couple years. So this is obviously quite relevant. And a lot of people would want to hear your thoughts on not really the problem, but solutions on on how to be healthier, and to raise that vibration like you you’re into, as well. So it’ll be interesting to get your thoughts on that. So I guess let’s go straight in. I think the first thing we want to sort of talk about is your story, because how did you even get into this space that everyone who’s in this space has an interesting story to tell? I’m sure. So yeah, just go through your guess how you got to where you are now?

Robert M 2:25
Well, I was a young lad. 20 years old, I was building my first house, I wanted to build a house by myself by hand. And so at that time, I was just I’ve always been interested in the lone state, not realizing what that meant. I’ve always interested in that, which is the unknown, right. And so I would always push myself and hikes and things to go deep into forests and stuff like that. So I decided to let it all go and go out to live in the woods. That’s what I did. I lived in the woods in a both wagon van and just ate fruit. I got some books from friends about raw foods and took off from there. The same time someone threw down and f1 car book touches book on I think, either in my soul and free or the Tigers thing. I think it was a tiger spirit. It was a description of all the god worlds, you know, how that how this level of creations put together? And I’m thinking, man, absolutely. You know, if you have to leave your body when you die, why can’t you leave your body before that? I mean, why what’s keeping you into the body, of course, you’re not the body. And so that’s started a journey about out of body travels. And you know, a lot of years of traveling and teaching how to have out of body travel. And suddenly, this voice came into my beingness out of nowhere, said, Who’s the traveler, my friend, who’s the traveler? And so that started me on the journey of awakening, I got a hold of Jai Krishna Murthy stuff, which is a excellent author and teaching you how to stop thinking, you know, the whole thing is the mind the mind obviously creates creation. It is the split of duality, from consciousness to duality. You have to understand that and how the mind works. And then it’s simply a computer. And if you live in your mind, you’re living from thought to thought to thought. And that is an extremely restricted lifestyle, because you can’t see anything around you. And in you. So wakening up is vital. For those that are ready for that for others.

George Papp 4:42
They’re gonna keep spinning. Keep spinning until the next time

Robert M 4:45
yeah, well, you know what, we create everything, everything in your life, you create yourself. You realize it or not, somewhere along your journey in creation, you created this and you’re now experiencing it. So like Buddha said, like go, who cares anymore? Sit under the tree for 20 years ago, you know, when I’m done sitting under a tree for 20 years. So it’s just, it’s just the process of wakening up. But that process is a mind you have to learn that thoughts are just your activity in creation.

George Papp 5:17
Yeah, and I had that same experience, going into going into the forests or going for walks into nature, it kind of allows you to switch off your mind. Just to take in the scenery, right. And I think that’s a massive, massive thing that someone can include in their lives, to actually just spend an hour or even half an hour just going into the into nature at some point in your day. Because being constantly online or constantly on in the city, even if you’re in the city, there are parks, I know, it’s not as easy, but there are options. And yeah, definitely take advantage of that. Because I know that changed everything for me. And I’m sure and and also you. So yeah, so I guess let’s move to health. And obviously, I’ve been following your YouTube channel, what foods what foods? Do you sort of promote for health? What sort of diets I guess we don’t need to call it diet, but what sort of foods do you promote? And I guess why, as well, why are they promoted? And What effects do the other options, let’s say, effect, if you’re doing intake,

Robert M 6:30
you know, back in the back when I got started on raw foods, I got a hold of the natural hygienic material, Herbert Shelton and all that. And there was a fasting clinic Shelton Bassick clinic just about 30 miles away from me. So I would go there in a nature path granted, of course, and there you fasted for however long it took to change the coating on your tongue, so to speak. So there was a lot into the raw foods, but then there was one or two outstanding Authors about fruitarianism. And I just suck that right up because we are frugivores as a Homo Sapien. So when I came doctorate, and all that started going down the road writing books and things and I brought in the comparative difference of the four basic vertebrae, take a look at the difference between the frugivores, herbivore and omnivore and carnivore, and they’re distinctly different and for obvious reasons. Their jaws moved differed, you know, some have paws, hooves, you got a whole line of and I took all this work to two veterinarians and said prove me wrong. And the female came back and said, you know, can I add pigs to omnivores? I said I forgot the pigs. But looking at the different species, it’s obvious that we’re frugivores we do not handle other foods well. So to that point, I’ve got a site called Dr. Morris TV on that site is a video we did on tissue regeneration. And I have a lot of different stories that are take a look at what I did on just fruit and regenerating a toe regenerating neurological conditions, regenerating a young lad who had his brain smashed a lot of broken body parts. And what we did just with the fruit diet and using some botanical side so the power of the fruit is is very important to understand a man doesn’t understand that he’s lost in sugars and proteins and just crap like that doesn’t understand anything. Medical is not about health anyone. And they’re stumbling on their own ignorance when they tried to tell anybody wanting. They have no clue about health, vibration energy, not just nutrition. There’s no bottom line is magnetic energy, stuff like that consciousness. And that’s the food you’re eating and chemistry are consuming. So there’s a lot of unawareness around fruit, fructose, glucose, simple sugars of life, there’s just a lot of confusion and everybody’s loading up on protein. Well, goodbye kidneys and goodbye bowels. So they get it’s just a lot of misunderstanding and you move to a place where you can have irata right there. You got fruit all over the place. I went on strictly oranges. I found a grove of navel oranges that were obviously a little help from the outer worlds. These were unbelievable. They were as big as grapefruits. To eat one you would go almost into ecstasy. It was that incredible. And I lived on it for almost a year exclusively.

George Papp 9:41
Basically on oranges?

Robert M 9:42
Nothing else, Oh man, I couldn’t. But the problem with that is that the energy if you’re an out of body travel or the energy can be so intense and you just can’t, you don’t sleep and you can’t stay in the physical body. So I had to actually come out Brown. I had to come out and eat vegetables and stuff like that. And my body hurt a long time to get used to it, but it finally got used to it. It helped me to stay grounded here.

George Papp 10:09
Some some arguments want to get your opinion on on this because even some guys in the alternative health space they eat a variety of food, including being carnivore, let’s say, and they they promote organic. But what are your thoughts on the fact that you know? Because they basically have stated, there’s been an argument out there that, you know, people can’t last on vegan diets because they’re all or fruitarian, let’s say, because they are they become weak and they get, you know, they actually have protein. What’s your thoughts on that? Because I know, that’s an opinion,

Robert M 10:49
you’re definitely that’s far from true. Some of the things people don’t understand is that when you start going on a raw food diet, you’re eliminating stimulants, you’re eliminating a huge part of acid ash foods, which act as stimulants. So you go from being dehydrated and acidified to being hydrated and alkalis. So you’re moving from a chaotic state, a state of, like I said, dehydration and things where the body’s stiff and tight and full of water and stuff to a hydrated energetic level. And you can get your body to some of these levels where you can’t see the energy is so powerful, that you just you can’t protect yourself. For those that do get fatigued there’s a problem. And that problem is called the sheer adrenal glands. And most people have at least subacute. And I would say at least 70% of humans have chronic adrenal glands. Well, that’s your neurotransmitters for the autonomic. And so when you go on a non stimulating non mucus forming diet, living food, electrical diet, you all these stimulants are then eliminated. And these stimulants are called acids or proteins, and the body starts eliminating things. But then everything goes down, you’re lose that edemic stimulation and everything, and you can get really fatigued has nothing to do with the diet you’re on whatsoever, it has to do with your genetic stance of your adrenal glands, and your pituitary. So there’s a lot people don’t understand where you’re driving your car, down the road to health that you’re going to take that your body’s gonna go through to get at the biggest issue is elimination and what the body has to eliminate. And so you’ve got to go through things, and then that is the genetic stance of the thyroid or the adrenals, whatever tissues you’re talking about, you got to look at the genetic awareness of those tissues, at what level are they function, because cells start to puncture. So in that process of getting well, yeah, people can look down vegetarianism, you know, all those things are kind of jokes in the sense that you’re still eating grains, you’re still eating beans, you’re still eating high proteins, and got to get away from the proteins, we are not a high protein species, and precise wrong word, use amino acids. And when you look at the fruit, the structure of our fruit is fairly simple, has full of amino acids for the HomoSapiens structure. When you get into your vegetables, vegetables are not for humans. Take a look at the herbivores. You’ve got elephants, you’ve got horses, we raised horses, we are farmers, of course, we had horses all over the place. Cows, elephants, all these animals, they have huge muscles. So they need more amino acids. Well vegetables do have more amino acids. But getting someone that doesn’t need more amino acids. Now you bring in the factor of acidification. And that’s where you run into problems. When you compact amino acids. Now you’re into your punking structures, and your body has to tear those apart before they can even use it. So there’s a lot to understand when you’re looking at health. There’s a lot of misinformation out there and lies that are probably industry, the marketplace. You know,

George Papp 14:13
I’ve noticed over the last 10 years, probably longer actually, like they’re really they do promote a lot of protein out in the stores and you know, they’ll have chocolate with protein and stuff. Yeah, and it kind of makes

Robert M 14:28
your mother’s milk doesn’t even show you that you don’t have any place in nature showing you that not even in human mother’s mouth, not even in an herbivore mother’s mouth. So they’re way off point.

George Papp 14:43
Yes. Interesting. So I guess moving to what sort of detox and fasting protocols can can people do? I know this is something that people do quite often now is sort of detox and do this for a short period of time. I mean, what are you what do you think? and cough sort of water fasts and I know you promote grape juice fasts as well. What are you, what’s your sort of protocols to that you swear by and what you promote?

Robert M 15:10
Alright, so depends on a couple of things. First of all, it depends upon the individual, obviously, and where they’re at in their health issues. I’m facing a female with five babies, that’s got tumors all through her, she’s going on a great diet like yesterday, because it is the most electrical, the most hydrating. And it has an imbalance of astringents. And that’s key factor. Generally people with years ago would go on like the Stanley burls, lemon juice diet, the master cleanser diet, so to speak, pretty acidic, pretty strong, especially with someone highly depleted. So the grape is the most electrical, in my opinion with that without the high acids like the lemons and some of the grapefruits and stuff. Even though those acids all develop into an awkward time, it’s still you know, hard on, hard on the mouth and stuff. Outside of that water fasting, if I’ve got a tumor, here’s the gig, you have to understand a system that no one understands on this planet except us. And I hate to say that’s not I don’t mean to be narcissistic. This is the great lymphatic system. You don’t understand that system. You think there’s diseases, you think there’s microbial problems, you live in the world of all a pathway, which doesn’t know anything about anything. So they made up this idea of diseases, and of course, that Rockefeller germinating that theory. And then the germ theory, of course, which is ridiculous, that shows you more of what you don’t understand about nature and bacterium and fungus and stuff like this, and what their journey is. Tell ya, you have to understand a lot more about what nature is and what it does, it might surprise medical is just lost in the mind somewhere in academics that they’ve gotten lost. They’ve lost their basic foundation of the two sides of chemistry. And you got to understand the nature of chemistry or you don’t understand squat and then you have to understand how does your body deal with each side of chemistry and understanding that leaves you in the blood and lends blood is the kitchen lymphatic is your sewer system. Immune System. A lot of people think your blood is your immune system. No, no, no, no, no your sewer system, your lymphatic system is your main immune system. And that you have to understand and that’s tied to the kidneys, your kidneys and your skin are your eliminating organs or cellular waste from 100 trillion cells. You know, the one thing that medical doctors can ask answer you is how the body eliminates the catalytic acids or waste. How do you get rid of cellular waste? You don’t dump them in the blood don’t go that way. That’s that’s that can’t do that. You’re dead in a minute. So how does the body do that? And they keep looking at this system the lymphatic system and they just keep going over it. Even the top scientists when I was attending this, some international lymphatic symposium just stupid. Just stupid, stupid, stupid stuff. I understand your kidneys are major players your right kidney drains your right side of your body, your left kidney the left side and you could have one kidney not filtering like the other one. You have tumors on one side, the other side real good. All kinds of problems like that. So filtration pee in a jar look at your urine if there if it’s clear, you’re in trouble. Nobody uses the bathroom and expects to see clear water coming out of the sewer pipes.

George Papp 18:48
Well, because my in my opinion, it was like, you know, if you pee clear, you’ve done a good amount of water and you’re already clear. So go into that a bit more? I guess so. So yeah, I guess go into that a bit more now. How that changes things.

Robert M 19:09
Ask me about my journey. So you’re living in a Volkswagen van. You don’t have any room. So when you got to pee, I had a little jar of course or there was a little sink thing this Volkswagen van and so I’d set the jar up on the sink and you know not think much about it get up in the morning and I’d see the sediment on the bottom of my urine. I go oh, man, I got some stuff out. I didn’t think you know, medically that urine should be clear, because that’s wrong. But I didn’t even think about it because I didn’t know anything about that. And each day I look at it and I test about how deep Am I getting cleaning out of my body to what how much sediment I would see in there. Well, later on I got my doctorate so by biochemistry and all that I’m starting to look at bloodwork, urine analysis and I’m looking at all this and I keep seeing all these your analysis Clear. Clear, and I’m going clear to you and shouldn’t be clear. As time went on, it just dawned on me just where the problem is advanced lack of understanding of how the body eliminates this. And of course, that leads you into the skin integrity system, that gigantic system and into the thyroid for that in the adrenals for the kidneys. So now you’re into the windows that deal with the organs. And now you’re into a system of elimination. As you have a system of consumption and electrification and where you get your ATP, ADP ANP, all those beautiful things. You also have a system to get rid of waste. So when you look at cells interstitially around the cell, you have about 80% lymph fluid about 20% blood.

George Papp 20:42
Wow, it’s it’s definitely something for you guys to do and research on. And then definitely check out Dr. Robert Moses stuff to look into that a bit more deeper. So yeah, definitely do your own research obviously, but it’s interesting. It’s definitely interesting to hear that. That’s new for me as well. So definitely do some research on that

Robert M 21:01
Vital because I’m facing someone with tumors. And I’ve got kidneys not filtering, those tumors are not going anywhere but growing. Because the body keeps metabolizing, and they can’t get rid of its waste. So it pockets. Once you get the kidney filter, boop, there goes the tumor. Gone.

George Papp 21:19
Wow. Very interesting. Very interesting. We touched upon germ theory versus terrain, as well, we didn’t mention terrain. But for those out there who maybe don’t understand or haven’t heard of this, this these theories before just touch upon, I guess the difference. And you know, obviously germ theory is what is in the mainstream accepted. So yeah, just to go into the alternative. And yeah, I guess compare the two and what your thoughts are.

Robert M 21:52
People are afraid of bacterium and all types. There’s no question. There’s worms, fruits, all kinds of things that people get in and we get out at home, you know, and people some people have tapeworms in them and pinworms and hookworms and crap like that. So you know, we do, we do things like that. But nature has to keep itself clean, you have several laws of nature that are important to understand. One of them is that the strong survive the weaker consumed. And this is true cellularly. Okay, so when you look in the body, when the cell is weakened or damage, it’s through the lymph system that damage that blood can damage the cell unless it stops going to work. The only thing that can damage the cell is cids. On the acid side of chemistry, you look in the physiology of the body, and that comes that is dumped into the lymphatic system. So when the lymphatic system becomes stagnant, the blowback is called inflammation. When it’s intracellular, that’s when you start to see the mutation of the cell. Well, then you have macro, you have an immune cells, taking it out of tissue to the lymph nodes, where then you have the macrophages. But then you have one other thing in your lymph nodes that’s vital. And that’s called bacteria. bacterium break down these three pH, cellular acids. When you feel pain, you’re feeling a Coca Cola, three pH, whether it’s in your joint or liver, or wherever it is, all these acids that you’re feeling when you feel pain, or arthritis or whatever, that’s three pH. And so the bacteria in your lymph nodes, all these wastes are supposed to go to the lymph nodes, bacteria break them up or down, however, you want to look at it to six or so that way you’re not on your knees peeing. Those that have taken a lot of antibiotics, of course, have systemic acidosis big time. So then you’re in the RAS that lupus is the light, they start blaming everything else, chips and everything else on systemic acidosis. When in fact, they’ve contributed big time taking antibiotics, that’s not the way to do that. You know, and if you have a tear in your skin and your lymphatic systems back up, you’re out food, because your bacterium is there to break down waste. We live in a created universe. And this universe is a LEGO Universe that Legos are called atoms. So we need atoms for anything. If someone gets pregnant lady gets pregnant out there and wants to have a baby. Where do you get the atoms to make your baby from doesn’t come out of thin air? How do you get the liver or the pancreas to grow? Where do you get the atoms for all of this? We live in a created universe all the atoms are here that’s ever been here. So what’s up with that? So then that’s why you see birth, life and death. That’s where you see things that have to come and go. And that’s because we need those atoms for new things that are coming. But it’s also why you see the destruction of important things that we need. But it gets you got to learn the balance of that man does has no clue on how this world works. Because religions have stifled his awareness his/hers.

George Papp 25:03
Yeah. So touching on, on those issues that people have, what protocols? And what, what have you sort of seen and what cures? Have you? You know, what people have you helped and in what certain issues? And how has how have you even done that? And what results have you seen?

Robert M 25:24
I’ll back it up backwards for you. There’s nothing we haven’t cured. I mean, there’s anybody that can’t cure themselves even of genetic weaknesses, we do genetic remembering your body does that. And it’s understanding that when you’re consuming food, you’re consuming living consciousness. And there’s a lot more than just nutrition that the body is getting out of this food. Man doesn’t get that yet, because he hasn’t developed his awareness to understand that plants have a mind and have emotions, anything that exists physically has to come down through these realms. And they take on these bodies just like humans do. And so when you even if you have an entity at your doorstep, that doesn’t have a physical body to it, or appearance of that, you have the same body, that entity dies, you just don’t know it. And so you can’t have fear when some of these things come about. So I forget where I was. Your microbes now here’s another problem, I want to say real quick on the microbe thing, fungus. So many people are full of fungus. And that’s because we ferment. People combine their foods wrong. If you eat protein and starch at the same meal. No, that’s wrong, you’re gonna break your digestion, fast digesting foods that say watermelon on top of oatmeal or watermelon even on top of a salad, you’re gonna have fermentation of sugars. The average human is an alcoholic. People don’t realize that, but the average isn’t alcoholic by way of his diet. I got so many cases to show you where people were actually arrested after they ate this way for DUIs. And so the problem is that when you do this, then you invite the fungal community and plus on top of that we like fungal foods. We like fermented foods, we like cheeses, breads, you know, beer, all this thing. So people bitch about having bodies full of fungus, which leaves uric acid by the way. It’s just a never ending cycle. So to get rid of that, you have to also look at the way you eat combination your eating, and your adrenal glands. Are you metabolizing your sugars because if you’re not metabolizing sugars, these guys will be happy to help.

George Papp 27:40
I guess going back to the previous question, what, what, like issues and diseases or you know what issues let’s say with what protocols,

Robert M 27:53
okay, so when you are give it out there you got if you do a fruit in the morning, a salad at lunch and a fruit at night, and you go on an herbal program that addresses your kidneys, your lymphatic system, getting up your endocrine glands cleaning up your GI tract. You could probably cure almost anything except neurological. When it comes to neurological weaknesses like MS, Parkinson’s, Lou Gehrig’s, you have to be 100% fruit. I don’t think I’ve ever found a cure any of those cases, we have a couple of Parkinson’s cases that they’re on sentiment and just worse than cocaine, difficult for them to break it. But outside of that Lou Gehrig’s, I’ve never failed on a Lou Gehrig’s case. And in fact, there’s a couple of them up on that PV site show you but the issue is electrical. And I’ll give you one case and this was an MS case, she was highly advance, constant that back at ambulance brought her to my clinic. Stiff solid. And so MS. So I put her just on fruit and herbs, of course to get in and out, open it up. And in two and a half months. She’s sitting up she’s wheeling herself. And she’s feeding herself because she had a full time care caregiver. So then I’m saying honey you’re so thin I got to put some muscle on you. And of course I’m thinking of amino acids. I work with Mr. Olympia and I also have a lot of trainers of Mr. Olympia. So we work with body builders, and so on, then I gotta get some greens in you. I gotta get because I’m gonna try to build some muscle fairly quick. So she can, you know, wrong thinking. So when I put her on greens, guess what happened to her. She couldn’t move anymore. She went back to being prone and stiff again. And so I realized the difference of angstroms of the difference of electromagnetic energy anyway of a fruit versus a vegetable is huge. So there’s about 4000 electrical units if you want whatever you want to call it difference between a living vegetable and a living fruit. 4000 I’ll call it angstrom even though it’s not accurate, that is A tremendous amount of that’s almost as much as some humans operate. So it’s a tremendous difference of electromagnetic energy into your two nervous systems. And that is a big deal because it is electrical but it’s also conscious electrical. And so then you start rebuilding the myelin sheath you start working on on the endocrine glands and then people get up and walk. And we do that all the time. And in fact we give you a case of guys parachute didn’t know but hit the water about 8080 85 pretty broken up quad out of that he’s now running and have a great life. So it these type of cases are all over the world like that. But you can regenerate anything for the medical doctor can’t regenerate nothing, because that wrong thinking if you don’t understand what causes something, how do you know how to fix it? This isn’t there and see if it’ll stick on the wall. That’s my pharmaceuticals are deadly or very injuring crap, it’s might stick on the wall temporarily, but it all falls off.

George Papp 31:03
Yeah, that’s the that’s the overriding thing. And we, it seems like there’s just a common knowledge of it seems like the doctors and medical industry just patch over. They don’t actually solve the actual root cause they don’t know where that is or where it comes from. They just

Robert M 31:19
mind. That’s because their minds are trained. Remember, the mind is your computer. It’s trained to look at life through the window of diseases, which is a fallacy. And that’s why you have to be careful who’s controlling your mind. And that’s why I break the thought and get to awareness. And then you can control who controls your mind.

George Papp 31:41
Not many people question Who were they actually what they study? Like now, they just say, okay, they’ve gone through seven years of medical school, they must know, you know, everything right? Yeah. But no one questions, the books and the information they read, you

Robert M 31:55
know, and if, you know, an a&p books are so much wrong information in a&p books, I practice, what I have here is taught right now at major universities, Medical University. And it says there’s no lymphatic system in the brain. Absolutely none. The University West Virginia two of them about four years ago. So there’s so much misinformation. But if you if you did discover the lymphatic system, what is it? What is it therefore, one medical doctor finally said when he read that, about the lymphatic system, he said, you know, finally, we’re trying to understand how the body gets rid of a catalytic waste. And that’s the only intelligent conversation I’ve ever heard come out of any medical doctor related to the lymphatic system. Like we were talking earlier, some of these symposiums of the lymphatic system are ridiculous medically, you know, they Okay, this one lady researcher can now remove a lymph node out of a healthy area into where they removed the lymph node before this highly lymphedeic. They’re working on doing that. And I’m thinking how stupid is this lady, all this money, she’s going to take a lymph node out of other tissue. Now, a lymph node is a septic tank. And if you don’t want a septic tank is that’s where your sewage goes into from your house. And each lymph node feeds a lot of houses. So there’s a lot of cells in your body, for example, under your arm, your lymph node bed, your axillary lymph node bed, feed your breasts, your chest area, and your lungs, get that messed up. And guess what you get tumors in your lungs and tumors in your breasts. So you it’s just understanding this whole, you know, lymphatic system and back that there’s something they just don’t understand. And that we do, and that’s what makes nature pass. But not all naturopaths understand it, either. It’s just something I brought out so many years ago, and all you students have been following me for years and our classes and stuff. You’re, you’re using those techniques and curing people on some amazing. We have housewives that had to quit being housewives and go open up healing centers because they were healing so many people. Don’t over think simplicity. Simplicity is how you get to complexity. Complexity can get you lost. Yeah, and it’s simple, sweetheart.

George Papp 34:22
Yeah. And also going from going back to you mentioned under the armpit, right, and people are spraying them, spraying them up with all sorts of chemicals, right. And I found that out three years ago, too. So I mean, now I don’t use anything I mean, I use natural and I have to see what the ingredients are in them well lemon or whatever, just to have that you know, not use these sorts of these chemicals under there because it’s like you said there is important important cells and important like you said lymph nodes under there. So there’s always a reason for everything.

Robert M 34:58
The thing is if you stink, you got to detoxify yourself, you got too much protein in you, you, you’re eating dead animals, or whatever, but you don’t want to stink. You don’t need underarm deodorant. If you do, you’re too toxic, you got to move your lymph system because the seriousness of this is, is once these lymph nodes get hardened, you’re in trouble and the tissues all in the chest area. And like I said, in the lung area, and you know, fair warning, this lymph system is serious, you know, blood will kill you right off, right lymphatics will kill you slowly and very painfully. So it’s just understanding a sewer system, and how that sewer system uses the kidneys and the skin as they’re eliminating organs. Or you’ll see it ooze out in your skin, and you’ll get psoriasis, eczema, all kinds of stuff. If your skin can eliminate, take a look at what you get from that. I’ll give you an example. If you forget to if you have a little baby just come from the hospital. Yeah. But you know, and everything. You’re just learning how to change diapers and everything you forget to change the diaper in a timely manner. So then you take the diaper off, my God, there’s a watch a red rash, what sided chemistry created that and that’s from urine, okay, so you have to understand acids have to get out of the body or they burn back. Acids burn you. Here’s a good example. Any lady with endometriosis has to be careful because in surgeries, the in the lymph is so acidic that it welds that the uterus to the bowel walls. That’s common. So these acids are very serious, and they’re burning a lot of people up. And that’s just the nature of the beast. So to stop that you have to get on the other side of chemistry. And there’s foods are divided up into two categories, either alkaline forming, which is hydrating electrical, that’s your fruits, berries, melons and your vegetables. Everybody else pretty much I mean, you could argue quinoa, millet. Every everything else, every grain been dead animal, pasteurized dairy products are on the acid side of chemistry. They steal your electrolytes, they steal your energy, they don’t give you energy. So when your diet is predominantly meat, potatoes and breads or whatever, I don’t know how people have energy, because none of that has any energy to give you back and getting it to ATP is much more difficult.

George Papp 37:31
So what with all that being said, we’ve got guys here on who are listening I’m sure that I guess live, let’s say in quote unquote normal diets, let’s say, what first step can they take to maybe move into this type of health?

Robert M 37:50
Well, the firs thing, or the first thing I would do my for ages, I would go to a breakfast, a break fast from the night before and change it to all fruit. So change that first, then your nightly meal. You don’t want to go to bed with dead animal tissue and all that crap in your gut. So your nightly meal should probably be either a salad we recommend a fruit meal. Now your lunch, you can have a salad you could have a salad a piece of fish on it or a piece of chicken if you if you’re a meat eater. If not, you’re gonna have steamed vegetables or some vegetables on the side. You can get your cooked in there if you want it and then still have a nice salad dressings. You know, don’t use anything creamy and milky. You don’t want mucus in your sinuses and your lungs don’t do milk and creams and yogurts and stuff like that they’re all mucus forming extremely. So you can start out that way. If you were to dig in, then go do that for a couple of weeks. Look at what Dr. Oz, Dr. Oz a medical doctor, he took 12 people to the zoo, anatomy monkey called Monkey food, which monkey food is fruits. However, they had vegetables and stuff like that. And so all their stats, their high blood pressures came down, the cholesterol came down and all that in two weeks. Big time obvious. Now, take it a step further and get rid of the vegetables and you’re off onto a major detox. It’s your body doing it. You’re giving it the power you’re giving it the astringent, you’re giving it all the chemistry the flavinoids, everything it needs to then detoxify itself and brother, hang on because your sinuses are going to dump your mucus out of your lungs. You’re going to cough that up. You’re gonna see mucus in your stools coming out of the bowel walls. I mean, you’re gonna see a lot coming out of you, tumors are gonna start going down. Things like that.

George Papp 39:47
Interesting because people would be, let’s say scared to start this type of diet because they may think that either especially maybe if you’re doing training and stuff and you’re a fitness guy, you You’re not getting enough calorie or you’re not getting enough. I know you’re we mentioned protein, but you’ve worked with, you know, people who do fitness and then you know, into that sort of thing and it works for them? It works for them pretty well?

Robert M 40:14
I have an ex-pro ex-Mr. Olympia. And he’s good. He’s writing a book on that on the industry of bodybuilding. And it’s, it’s hair raising to know what all is going on in that industry to be honest with you. The big problem in that industries RA, the arthritis is the loss of connective tissue, blowing rectums, losing muscles, you know, things like that. The problem with that is proteins, again, you cannot pump proteins and keep your kidneys and keep the body away from acidosis you can’t do. So you’ve got to go to amino acid blends, which is your greens. So I have powdered green blends for these guys that have you know, alfalfa, you know, your spinaches and stuff like this. But still a little fruit and a few little things. I use a couple of little things like velvet antler in the top bodybuilders stuff like that, to strengthen, because one of the hardest things if you build muscle with protein, easy to go away. And then of course you’re acidifying your lose your kidneys, then your lymph system comes back up. And then everything you start getting the RAS rheumatoid arthritis. And you just see tons of body builders with the joints out there. Here I’ve got a ton of them that used to come to my clinic. And it just, you can’t do it that way. And I’ve been preaching this for 50 years, you cannot use proteins to build yourself up. Gotta use amino acids. But then again, it’s all depends on your activity level. And what you want you can do, you can make your physical body do anything you want. If you want pure energy, however, you get away from thinking of calories and muscles and things like this, go into just a frugivore rich diet and hang on after the body gets through cleaning itself, the adrenals start rebuilding itself. Hang on, because your energy levels are about to shoot the moon. And we’ve got athletes right now breaking records, they just, it’s just amazing. When you remove the obstructions to the flow of energy. Imagine what that means. And you have three flows of energy in the human body, blood, nerve, and lymph. Get those flows of energy at their optimum. You can’t believe what they do.

George Papp 42:32
Just like Nikola Tesla said we’re energy right.

Robert M 42:37
Absolutely pure energy.

George Papp 42:38
Yeah, exactly. So say thank you very much. Rob. I mean, thank you very much for that, I think is some really great, valuable information for for the listeners out there. Thank you. I mean, where can people find your work? Where can people go visit your stuff and learn more?

Robert M 42:58
Okay, so we’ve got Dr. Morris TV. And of course we’re on all the channels, although YouTube’s kind of, I think I’m a shadow guy on YouTube now. Yeah, I talked about vaccine. I talked about the truth. Yeah, they of course, you know, we’re wearing and then I have a clinic here Dr. Morris, detox center. And so they can go even our main website is Dr. Morris herbal health club. And in that you’ve got the herbs, you got all kinds of things there and have fun with this. You learn about your kidneys, we have free, everything’s free. I’ve been teaching classes for 35 years, and I’ve been helping people for 50 So yeah, have fun,

George Papp 43:38
great experience. Oh, I’ll definitely include everything in the show notes. For sure for everyone to check out. So definitely do that. Yeah, so I guess make sure you guys subscribe and share the podcast on Spotify. Plus, obviously if you wanted to check out the Cryptonomous consulting in regards to saving your wealth during the Great reset from the banks are inevitably collapsing. Check it out cryptonomousconsulting.com forward slash members which will have all the all the details in regards to joining us. We obviously aim to help you grow and preserve that wealth as well. Again, I’ll add the stuff there. Dr. Robert Morse in the show notes and definitely check that out. Great stuff, Dr. Robert and yet peace and love to you all thanks for listening

Highway to Health with Naturopathy and Fruitarianism: Dr Robert Morse

Learn about a few personal details from Dr Morse as well as about his fruitarian diet and how he was able to start the regeneration of body tissue. Morse first dispels the myths of raw fruitarian and vegan diets and sheds light on the confusion of high protein diets which cause acidity in the body. We learn about juice fasting and the nuances of different juices that can be used as well as his belief that clear pee is not healthy. We delve into the fallacy of germ theory and the ignorance of medical practice when it comes to body function and the importance of the lymphatic system which is still the most misunderstood system in the body today. Morse shows us that foods can be broken down into alkali and acidic food types – alkali foods are electrical and hydrating while acidic foods steal your energy and acidify your body. Finally, Morse gives us some practical first steps for trying a fruitarian diet and bodybuilding with the right type of building block, amino acids from fruits and vegetables.

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