Interview with Clive de Carle: Reclaiming Your Personal Health

George Papp 0:08
Hi, welcome to the conscious renegade podcast with me George Papp, helping you to be the change you wish to see in the world.

Today we are joined by Clive De Carle an independent health consultant, and also founder of The Secret health club. We’ll be discussing alternative health to free people from the pharmaceutical industrial complex and live a healthier, happier life. Also, just to let you know, guys, the Cryptonomous membership is now live. So feel free to check that out. We have monthly newsletters, live trade calls and investment tips that we’re looking at, to hedge against the great reset and definitely a hedge against inflation currently, so definitely check that out. So Clive, thanks for coming on. How’s it all going?

Clive De Carle 1:11
Thanks, George. Yeah, fantastic. Thank you very much.

George Papp 1:14
Thanks. And yeah, thanks for joining me, we actually haven’t had a health guy on yet. So you’ll be the first so it’s going to be interesting to discuss. There’s obviously a lot going on around health as well in the current sort of mainstream. So it will be great to get your insights, I guess first, the first sort of thing to look into is your own story, because I know you have such an interesting story. I was looking at your website, I know your work. And I sort of have an idea of your story. I guess to the listeners who haven’t heard your story. Yeah, just give them an insight of where your background is and how you’ve come to where you are today.

Clive De Carle 1:53
Okay, well, I’ll just start where I don’t normally start. When I was 10. In 1964, my dad introduced me to John Lennon. And this was life changing because a I was a big fan that be I thought the world was going to change for the better. I thought by 1967 that global peaceful revolution would happen and war would end and the world would be lovely. So I got quite shocked when that didn’t happen. And then when I was 11, I went fishing and it was in very clear water. And we had a bucket with a glass bottom so I could see the fish. And I was in little dingy and the person I was with had had a hook with a live maggot. Then dead maggot on I had one I didn’t want to put the maggot on the hook but he didn’t care. I dreaded catching a fish because I didn’t want to rip a nasty hook out of fish’s mouth. I really didn’t want to do that guy’s worth he didn’t care. He caught 20 fish. I caught none and want to catch one he wanted to got about 20 fish, because we could see what was going on. We see the hook with the maggot on it through the glass bottoms. Bucket. Every time we swap with swap fishing lines. And each time we swap the fish that are going crazy for his hook. So slowed right down. Then they saw that now he was holding one and zoom they went over and started in a frenzy wanting to be caught by him and all afternoon I couldn’t catch fish. He did. I caught sunstroke. He had fish for dinner. So then I went in, I was very entrepreneurial. I did a lot of different business stuff. And then I started a contact lens company. And we ended up selling it for an awful lot of money. And I retired and started an organic farm and but in the meat when I was about 31 I made a big mistake. I had some spots on my face because I was eating badly. And I stupidly went to a doctor who gave me an antibiotic and one antibiotic. A few months later I was in hospital, antibiotic poisoning. I’d become type one diabetic, or become arthritic. I got rheumatoid arthritis so badly, I couldn’t walk anymore. I couldn’t get dressed. I fingers wouldn’t work anymore. And I was in hospital for weeks and weeks and just getting worse and worse. And it was all terrible. And the doctor said, Well, there’s nothing we can do. But I was reading books while I was in hospital and I realized that the antibiotics have damaged my gut bacteria and I got wheeled out of the wheelchair and so they’re fixing myself with vitamins and minerals and a bit of a diet change. And all the arthritis went away and I’ve been fine 37 years since then, at least arthritis wise. And so when I sold the contact lens company, I thought oh what am I going to do with my life? And yes, I had no small organic farm but I wanted to do more. So I started studying health because not only that I got better, but I’ve seen somebody else 30 or 35 years ago, recover from cancer, which the doctor said was going to kill them, they started taking 35 grams of vitamin C every day, and didn’t die of cancer when they did die 20 years later, it was from something else. So by the way, if I talk about cancer, and spelling with a K, for legal reasons. And what I’m saying is not medical advice, because I’m not a doctor. I’m just a bloke that knows some stuff. And anything that I say, just check it out for yourself, you know,

they started censoring me in 2014, when I was working with UK column. And at that point, I had to take all my videos off YouTube. And I started a club called secrethealthclub.com, where all the band videos are on with a lot of other people’s banned videos. And I used to see clients, but I don’t really do that much anymore. Because I’m busy doing other things. So all the information that I used to impart to people basically is in an A to Zed form on the secret health club. There’s much cheaper joining that than it is employing me for an hour. So in a tiny nutshell, that’s some of the things that I’ve been up to. And then, about 20 years ago or something, somebody said to me that you’re really good at talking, you should give talks. And that frightened me silly that the prospect of that because I was always the one at school, who was hiding at the back, you know, I never talked at school, never put my hand up, never participated and left on my 16th birthday as soon as I could escape. And then suddenly, I found that I liked studying, you know, who will afford and I liked education and talking to people and explaining things and helping them. And then about 20 years ago, I was working with a medical doctor, who was super interesting. He taught me masters, absolutely masters. And he was like a renegade doctor in some ways. And he told me that Nikola Tesla had invented healing devices in the 1890s. And he said, You should buy one. And my business partner, one of my business partners, just two days later said, Did you know that Tesla has invented a hearing device, you should buy one, and I tracked one down secondhand and bought one. And right away, the doctor and I were getting results. It was unbelievable. People coming out of pain and 20 years of pain or whatever coming out stuff like that. And so these days, my hotkey, so to speak is tracking down these old machines and restoring them and your practitioners sometimes buy them from the people occasionally buy them. And I’ve got a video online, where I get 34 people out of pain in a row with a piece of kit that was built 100 years ago.

George Papp 7:59
Wow. stuff. Yeah. I mean, I wasn’t aware that you could actually get your hands on these. I obviously was aware of them, obviously aware of the Tesla situation, but I was unaware that you could actually still find them.

Clive De Carle 8:15
I’ve got about six people around the world. You know, over the years, I’ve got to know everybody who’s interested in this tiny little fringe area. I mean, you look on there on the website, you just there’s nothing, it’s been scrubbed, the information has really been scrubbed from the internet. So I started buying the old books that doctors had, you know, I’ve got one of my best books is from 1915. And it’s an instruction manual how to use Tesla devices. Doctors, because you can do surgery with them, not just not just get people over pain. I’ll show you an electrode. This is an electrode, maybe you can see that. Yeah, we can see. And this one is primarily used for restoring nerve damage. And then there’s another electrode this is for treating open wounds.

George Papp 9:08
Guys listening on Spotify, unfortunately, won’t be able to see they won’t be able to get here but a video you can see on Odyssey

Clive De Carle 9:14
here that this is for repairing cellulite damage. And, you know, people don’t realize that back in 1890 At the turn of the last century electrotherapy was normal in guy’s Hospital in London, when did they open their electrotherapy department? Well, it was 1843. And they’d already been using electric therapy prior to 1843. But so occasionally people will find these old bits of equipment in their attic. And they obviously most people think that today in the 21st century old pieces of medical equipment from you know, 100 years ago. Well we’ve surpassed that, you know, we’ve gone beyond that old rubbish and they throw them away, not realizing that they’ve just thrown away a genuine Tesla device. And so yeah, over the years, I’ve been tracking them down and restoring them. And myself and some others doors between us, we’ve got stocks or parts, and we know how to do it, you show one of these devices to the average electrician, and they’ve never seen tuned resonating Tesla coils before. They don’t know, they just don’t, you know, by the 1930s, valve technology had come out and Tesla coils were sort of redundant, you know, people, so people they weren’t taught anymore, after the second world war than they totally stopped teaching electrotherapy there’s, you know, the Rockefeller medicine crew went round to every teaching academy in the world, you would say teaching electrotherapy or teaching herbalism or a cures with mineral waters, or, you know, cures with acupuncture or homeopathy or in England, there are like 20 homeopathic hospitals at one point, you don’t get to be a hospital without being good. And you don’t get 20 of them. Unless homeopathy, it was really working. You know, there were about, I can’t remember how many there were over a dozen hydrotherapy where they just use water as their primary method of healing people in Bath, there’s still a huge hospital, I’m sure it’s been taken over as a fancy hotel or something now called the Royal Mineral Water hospital where they treated you with the bath waters, you took the waters just like going to a spa. So, so much knowledge has been lost that just 100 years ago, your great great grandparents would have been quite familiar with stuff that’s now totally foreign to us.

George Papp 11:52
Yeah. And I mean, these these devices have these Tesla tools. Are they potentially acquirable? By by people? Or are they are they still very limited in the amount that that are out there to?

Clive De Carle 12:07
Well, there are not many good ones out there. I mean, my American restorer who’s had a business for years restored finding and restoring these devices he’s he’s given up because he can’t find enough good devices that are worth his time to restore. Luckily, in Europe, they’re more common now than they are in America. Because in America, there was a real Crackdown is they put people in jail and stuff. But if somebody wants one, they’re really serious. If they want to write to me at info at Clive decarlo.com. I will send them details. You know, there are a few people who practitioners who use these but generally they do it on the quiet and they don’t usually have a website that step by word of mouth. But they are incredible me for chronic pain. That’s where it works best. If somebody is in chronic pain, you can usually get people out of pain in five minutes, usually, like not occasionally. But usually does I got a video where I get 34 people out of pain in a row in less than five minutes.

George Papp 13:16
Interesting. It’s good to know that they’re available. And you know, I’m sure they they have a lot of value in a monetary sense, but I’m sure they actually do work. It’d be great to hear more about that. Yeah, so definitely. I mean, the show on the show notes will have contact details for Clive. So if anyone wants,

I’ll send you a link to the video because it’s not a public video. It’s, you know, it’s not it’s not listed? Yeah, I’ll send I’ll send you so your listeners can find it.

Sure. We’ll include that as well. Cool. So let’s move on to I guess what is natural health? I mean, there are going to be some listeners here who maybe not sort of familiar with natural health, they might just not have looked into it enough. So what in your your sort of eyes is natural health? And what does that includes, I guess, protocols that you use suggests?

Clive De Carle 14:08
All right, well, let’s start off by looking at what healing is. So doctors who know anything about healing they know about drugs, surgery and radiation. But doctors don’t study health. It’s not on the curriculum five years, and they never get a healthy person and ask you how do you stay healthy? Why haven’t you got cancer or whatever. They don’t know about health. They don’t study cures, right. And what we want if we’ve lost our health is to get our health back. But doctors don’t do that. They will say, Oh, your body’s gone wrong. It’s bad luck. It’s bad genetics. It’s, you know, because you’re a fat lazy pig or whatever it is. They’re going to they’re going to blame you. But actually, nobody’s body ever goes wrong. What happens is that and perhaps we’re toxic ly poisoned, perhaps it’s an emotional toxin, we’ve had some terribly traumatic event, and it’s poisoned us, you know, at school people used to say, you’ll amount to nothing, you’re useless, or your accident prone or he’s always ill, or whatever it might be. And if we believe that type of hypnotic suggestion, we might not be well, but again, the doctors get it wrong. They see something like a tumor as a cancer, for example. They say, look, the cancer is the problem, the tumor is the problem. And so it’s like going to the car mechanic, and you say, look, I’ve got an engine problem. And so rather than the mechanic looking at what was causing the engine problem, they spot a big tumor, like a big red flashing tumor, you and I might call it the warning light on a car dashboard. But they say we’ve cut the tumor out, you’re cured. Nothing to do with what what caused the tumor, anything to do what was in the tumor? What’s the purpose of the tumor? Was it a good or a bad thing was the tumor the healing or the problem? So let’s simplify it. If you cut your finger, you know what to do. You leave it alone, you keep it clean, sterile oil. And what will happen with it will get hot and a bit red, you’ll get inflammation and inflammation is painful. So as your finger recovers, it’ll knock the temperature up three degrees to it. Because Because we heal with a high temperature, don’t we, you know, somebody is toxic. Let’s say they’ve got a lot of mucus and phlegm in them, well, the body will raise the temperature to detox, all that stuff, it all comes out. And then your temperature goes down, you’re back to normal. So inflammation is healing. But doctors say inflammation is the problem. Take an anti inflammatory. Well hang on a minute, you know that inflammation with your finger is part of the healing process. So what are inflammatory diseases? Well, arthritis, cancer, heart problems, loads of things are inflammatory. And inflammation is painful. But that is the healing process, but the dog just wants to turn it off. I’ll give them an aspirin, you know, get that temperature down them and they don’t understand what healing really is. So that’s one level of it. So with me, when the doctors couldn’t showed me that the these are all gonna be drugs for the pain? Well, I’m not lowering drugs. That’s not my problem. Deficiency of chemicals. That isn’t the issue. But I realized that I was low on minerals. I was low on vitamins. I was probably low on probiotics, your natural bacteria. I might have been low on amino acids, which you get from protein rich foods. But one way or another. I was as weak as a kitten getting worse. And the doctor said there was no hope. Now, that checked myself out, I started changing my diet, taking some supplements. All the arthritis went away 37 years ago, never come back and I looked like I was 18 years old. I couldn’t get drugs. And so what did I do? Well, the first thing I did was to take magnesium, magnesium and vitamin C as perhaps primaries. So what I’d like to do if I may is run through common deficiencies of vitamin C. And then your audience can decide whether maybe they’ve got a website with magnesium, run through the deficiency symptoms that you get if you’re low on magnesium and see if people have got any. So if you’re low on magnesium, you might be getting hiccups, spasms and hiccups as like a spasmodic contraction of the diaphragm spasms, cramps.

They are magnesium deficiencies and you’re seeing this with some of the people like sports people, they exert them. They have massive exercise and they dropped down dead and a heart attack. So what happened there? Well, somebody drops down died of a heart attack after vigorous exercise as they’ve done a marathon what would have happened well, they would have sweated and sweated and sweated until all the magnesium had sweated out and their heart stops because it cramps up and they die. You know people in the desert who we think there’s a dead person because they died of dehydration. No, they didn’t. They were still hydrated. What that what happens is that they sweat it out all the magnesium. So the heart had gone into a cramp and they had a heart attack and died. So any heart problems heart arrhythmia. Heart attacks, met probably a magnesium deficiency strokes. Arthritis answers, a joint issues twitches around the eyes, constipation, restless leg anxiety, panic attacks, lack of energy, poor sleep, we’re just scratching the surface of magnesium deficiencies. Now most people have got at least one of those for myself. If I don’t supplement with magnesium, I get muscle muscle cramps, I wake up in the morning and stretch and I’ll get a cramp. And but if I take magnesium, no cramps, and this is the same for pretty much everybody. Anybody who’s got one of those symptoms, twitches, constipation. Magnesium relaxes the body. So if you’ve got constipation, that means that your bowels aren’t relaxed enough to let go, you take enough magnesium, your bowels are going to let go whether you want them to or not. So you don’t want to take too much. But people who do take magnesium, many of them are taking a type that doesn’t work. If you go into a High Street store and buy the cheap stuff I was gonna ask this is just it’s not going to give you any magnesium that’s going to get you out of pain, you need the right type rather than the wrong type. And the quantity you might need might be totally different to what you ever would have imagined now. The RDA the recommended daily allowance, which is the amount that was worked out in the Second World War, to stop people dying of magnesium deficiency, right? It’s not enough to keep you healthy. But it’s just enough to stop you dying. That is the RDA. Now, the RDA for women is 380 milligrams, and the RDA for men is 400 milligrams. So that’s enough to stop you dying. But is that enough? Well, probably, possibly not. So now, people might have a say they’ve got some magnesium at home, they might look at it. And they might say 500 milligrams on the label. So they go would be one capsule is going to be fine, isn’t it? Because the 380 or 400 milligrams in a day, then you’ve got the whole thing in one capsule that No you haven’t. This is where they trick you. It says 500 milligrams. But that’s not elemental. Magnesium is not pure magnesium. That’s the magnesium salts like magnesium glucan aid or magnesium glycinate or citrate or whatever it might be. And there’s probably only maybe 100 milligrams of actual magnesium in there. So you actually need four capsules that say, not one. And they’ll say on the reverse. If you look at the supplement facts, it’ll say elemental magnesium. Now you know how much you’re really getting. So a lot of people think they’re getting the dose, they’re only getting a quarter of what they want. But that’s the minimum to stop you dying. So should you be taking for a day? Well, if you do you want to take them in divided doses, because some people might end up with diarrhea, if they take too many at once. I can take six at once no problem. And I recommend that most people if they recognize themselves as being low, having one of the symptoms that we just discussed, they might want might want and divided doses just at the beginning, assuming their kidneys are healthy to take 12 a day. 12 capsules of magnesium a day you know most people go, you’ve got to be kidding. That’s ridiculous, but it’s not. It’s not. I’ve had people who’ve been suicidal, write the depression so bad. And 24 capsules later, in less than two days no longer suicidal. Again, this doesn’t work for everybody. I’ve had some people

haven’t slept well for 10 years, suddenly sleeping well. I’ve had people who the pains stopped them. I had somebody this week who had trigger finger. They they couldn’t straighten their finger. It took the magnesium one hour later point the finger straight and I’ve had people cancel surgery for trigger finger because the magnesium was the problem. You see people bending as they get older than their backs bending over a summer certainly a magnesium deficiency. They can’t relax, they can’t relax their joints and their muscles and their tendons and ligaments and so on. So they’re beginning to twist up. Magnesium is number one in the in the mineral world. Vitamin C is number one in the vitamin world and vitamin D is number one in the hormone world. Vitamin D which we get from sunshine was mislabeled as a visible, it’s actually not it’s a hormone. So if you take vitamin D, magnesium and vitamin C in the right quantities, I would say that you’ll begin Being on the path to being bulletproof. If people that say on the NHS, they gave you the supplements, the right type the right amount, and you maybe included ID as an extra one, you could empty the hospitals a year 80% of the people who are in currently in hospitals wouldn’t be there. If you had those four things going, I would suggest

George Papp 25:23
I actually supplement those. Those three, personally,

Clive De Carle 25:27
You notice a difference when you started doing that?

George Papp 25:30
I actually did. I have to admit, I actually did. I managed to research like you said the right types. And yeah, I actually did see a difference. Certainly energy levels and mood level, for sure. Those things 100%. And I wanted to know,

Clive De Carle 25:48
how huge is that? How many people are feeling tired? All the time? Yes. It’s almost these days. Everybody’s feeling I would say some Ireland depressed. Yeah, no, it’s true. Yeah, no, I

George Papp 25:58
agree. I agree.

Clive De Carle 25:59
The interesting thing is that when we’re stressed, we burn up magnesium, right. So everybody’s stressed from 5g to, you know, listening to the news, if you’re foolish enough to do that, or whatever it is, everybody’s stressed way more than they should be. And how the body reacts to stress is burning your magnesium levels. So people get to this point where they burned their magnesium levels up completely. And now they’re getting the symptoms that we’ve just gone through.

George Papp 26:26
Yes. So it’s it’s certainly interesting. I mean, can we get these doses in natural food products? Or is it due to the fact that they’ve kind of ruined the food that we eat? That exactly that basically doesn’t allow us to have that those minerals in taken basically is that is that,

you know, I had an organic farm for 10 years plus, and my land had never been no have chemicals on it. So everything was just great. It was super easy to farm not I watch my neighbors doing it conventionally having a harder time. It was ridiculous. I was getting double the price, firstly, for my produce. And I was really well, at that point. 37 years ago, I had to take supplements to be well, but one of those living that lifestyle. I never supplemented with anything apart from a bit of Celtic sea salt. That was that was it. I didn’t need to because eating so well. Most people are unfortunately buying food that’s been poisoned. Isn’t that most people? I believe that when you go into the supermarket, there should be a say six categories, as opposed to in just a helicopter noise. It could be six categories. There could be a category, which just says what the product is, you know, bread, milk. Then there could be the other five categories, which which say slightly poisoned, fairly poisoned, moderately poisoned. Seriously poisoned and deadly. Yep. You forget the organic, biodynamic Viet that is that’s what it is. All the rest is food like poison. You know, if somebody gave you a one year old and said, look, the baby is really hungry. Would you feed it? Would you poison it? Well, course not. You wouldn’t poison a fictitious baby, that people are going out buying food for their kids. That’s got preservatives and pesticides and fungicides and herbicides, insecticides and larvicides. I talked to this farmer in the market once he was selling apples and stuff. And I said, Yeah, at that point, I was a farmer. I said, Joe, you know, how have you treated your apples this year in you as a farmer, and he told me it sprayed 28 different chemicals on his apples and then sealed them with wax so that the rain wouldn’t wash the chemicals off? Yeah.

And that hence the gloss that you see on those examinate supermarket apples

traits are endless, but also he was spraying stuff in the soil. So he killed all the insects and all the life and the beetles and everything. And then if you use Roundup, you know the glyphosate herbicide. How that works is it stops plants taking up minerals. That’s why all the weeds die. But even the Roundup Ready plants are I don’t know the numbers, but let’s say half empty of minerals. And every year, the soil gets worse when I was young. There was a wheat harvest or corn harvest or rye or oats or whatever it was, they do the harvest and burn the stubble to the ground. Now minerals are not damaged by heat. So every year they they grow it and they probably put natural fertilizers natural manures or whatever on the soil. And they’d always be putting it back that grow it up, burn it down, grow it up, burn it down and then leave it fallow and then that cycle but now they don’t do that anymore. So when they were doing that when I was young If I went out for a drive at this time of year, there’d be dead insects plastering my windscreen of the car, I’d have to get out and, and scraped and insects off my headlights at night, because I couldn’t see, because of all the insects. Now, I challenge anybody to tell me if they’ve got more than one dead insect on their windscreen, whereas I used to have 1000s in an hour. So it’s been an Armageddon of insects. So the birds aren’t there. The bats aren’t there like they used to be the young people don’t know, because they don’t know what’s not there anymore. But I’ve seen 99% extinction as anybody my age has of insects, it’s right in front of your face on the car windscreen. They’re missing. This is because they’ve all been poisoned by chemical farming. And so we were not meant to be ill women to self repair.

Yes. Yeah, I fully agree with that. I guess then, looking at those issues. What do you suggest in terms of a diet protocol? Or where would you source your food? If you’re in the sort of situations where you know, it’s quite difficult really to actually find food that is not poisonous, in a sense? Is it all about decentralizing and just growing your own, but obviously, again, you’ll have to find the right seeds and make sure the soil is of an adequate and poisonous level. So I mean, what sort of things do you suggest to to solve this for the individual at least?

Clive De Carle 31:29
Well, bearing in mind that many farmers in the UK and around the world will be growing say 30% Less next year, which means starvation for many people, because they can’t afford the fertilizers, the 300 400% rise in fertilizer costs. So and because they’re, they’re dependent on the chemical fertilizers, they can’t instantly go organic. I mean, personally, if you had a garden, I would be growing stuff. He’s got a lawn, you can just lay potatoes right on the lawn, cover it up with some cardboard with holes for the potato grow through an open up some straw bales, but a couple of straw bales on top. Even if the ground is rock hard, too hard to dig. You come back in a couple of months after you’ve watered the straw in the potatoes. And there’ll be potatoes in the ground right on the surface of the lawn and the roots will have gone down and like dug the soil for you. There there’s all sorts of no dig gardening techniques that are worth looking at. There are planting techniques where you plant things together. You plant onions next to carrots and the onions scare away the carrot flies and the whatever likes the onions doesn’t like the carrots, you know there’s companion gardening, there are all sorts of techniques that can make growing food sort of easy, but it really you the trick is to go to your neighbors and say what’s growing well because in some cases, there’s blights around so you just can’t grow this crop very well but other crops just a massive you know, I keep lots of beans like mung beans and lettuce I wanted bean sprouts and I want to plan in advance I can just put like two peas worth five peas worth of mung beans into soak then each day are, you know, let put them in a glass Kilner jar. With the top open. I just rinsed the beans every day so they stay a little bit damp. And within a few days, you’ve got bean sprouts. I’ve spent tea pea on mung beans, and I’ve now got two quids worth of mung beans because they they filled up the whole gillnet jar, you can sprout anything, you don’t need a garden you don’t need light. seeds don’t care whether you’re in the light or the dark. So let’s say I feel like hummus or falafel or some I’ve got some chickpeas and they store really well super cheap to buy. And I can soak them. They say I soak 10 grams of chickpeas. They’ll double double in weight by the end of the day and then I’ll just keep them down just wash them every day. And let’s say four or five days later, that 10 grams is probably gone to 50 grounds as they’ve grown and they’ve gone from dormant, which seeds are potential life to actually flourishing so the amount of vitamins and chickpea has gone up and immensely because it’s grown and you come alive.

George Papp 34:40
Are you are you a vegan client, you know, okay, what do you what do you suggest as a diet protocol because I know it’s widely dis sort of debated I guess, across the board, whether it’s sort of meat eating or vegetarian And or obviously veganism. What do you promote? Or what do you currently do yourself?

Okay, well, let’s run through the diets that are possible. There’s the Clinton diet. That’s where you’re a humanitarian. And that’s what your diet is, then there’s no vegetarian Fisher, Terry, whatever, that was a joke. But then the I stopped music, eating meat for 25 years. Literally, I went off it in mid chicken sandwich. And for 25 years, I did not want to eat meat. Then I changed my mind, I was round, and my dad says they got roast goose for Christmas dinner, and I decided that I’d go back to eating meat again. So I eat meat currently, but I’m very fussy. You know, I’m very lucky, I’ve got a organic shop that actually sells real food. And so I’m stupid. I won’t buy poisoned food, I just don’t want to do it. Because I guess clients, I see, I see the results of people eating badly. So I try to eat really well. And as I say, if you’re on a budget, then you can grow your own sprout your own. And it can be very, very inexpensive to eat. You can sprout lentils even sprout almost anything. But actually, I like cooked food. If somebody was in desperate need of a detox, let’s say they’re a type two diabetic. I’ve put people on a raw vegan diet, very low on carbohydrates, very low on sweet fruits, not an easy diet. And I’ve had loads of people who were type two diabetic now completely cured, no more type two diabetes, because they gave their whole system a rest. They stopped putting in the inflammatory foods, they gave their pancreas time to recover. Because most diabetics are constantly putting in processed foods or sugary stuff for fruit juices, you know, you want to be a type two diabetic these drinks and fruit juice, they’ll probably not your pancreas for six. And so most of us are capable of repair if we know how to do it. And we are what we eat in a more, more logically we are what we eat, think drink and do. That’s what we really are. So you go to a doctor, he says you’re going to die of cancer and you believe it. And that’s what you think, well, he well might. If you go in search of health, and somebody says, Well, if you look after yourself, you could live another 10 Healthy extra years, you probably might.

And I someone actually personally who reversed diabetes with a low carb to know that well, low carb, let’s say Meat, meat, meat diet, basically. So that got me thinking about the sort of meat versus vegan, you can go low carb with vegan, it’s just a lot more difficult. But it kind of got me thinking to, you know, how does it work then if he’s if he’s managed to reverse diabetes with a, with a sort of low carb sort of carnivorous diet? You know, there should be that should be looked into as a potential, you know, a good thing and something to look into as an option. But I believe that there’s always that debate between the sort of vegans and the meat eaters. Well,

Clive De Carle 38:22
every vegan I know, and I’ve known loads of vegans for decades, all long term vegans gave up they had to, they had no choice. They got ill, they got weak. We are omnivores, we our opportunity was if we got the opportunity, we’re likely to eat it. Ask one year old. And everybody’s different. And there are different times of need, as I say, I’ll happily put somebody on a raw vegan diet, if that’s what they need. I had a client a few years ago, who’d had IBS, ulcerative colitis type thing. For 10 years. He couldn’t leave the house one hour otherwise, you know, he might have an accident in the street. And he tried every diet that was it gone raw vegan, he tried everything. What fixed him finally, was going raw carnivore, he had steak tartare for a couple of weeks. And from the first meal of raw raw beef, he didn’t have IBS anymore, just stopped. He also did an one IV drip of glutathione. So it turned out that one of his problems was he had a severe reaction to certain certain petroleum products. And he lived on a main road and that might have had something to do with it. But essentially, he was raw carnivore for about under two to maybe three weeks at the most fixed him. That was what he needed might be the opposite for somebody else. So we are very intuitive if we’re willing to know know our bodies well enough and the more you trust your psychic abilities, the more you trust your intuitive abilities. The more they can develop. And so it’s it’s important to study that’s why I started the Secret Health Club because you can look up diabetes or thyroid or whatever the problem is. And there are some pretty good answers on each page as to what to do if you’ve got to get pregnant. You know, there all sorts of advice for that. And I interviewed Dr. Andrew Wakefield, you know, the guy in the doctor in 1995, who was the first one to mildly suggest that autism and vaccines might be linked. Now he’s been proved it goes completely vindication, right? They vilified him in his latest film, he’s now a filmmaker. It’s called infertility, a diabolical agenda. And now it’s only like 63% of the people who should be fertile, aren’t. It’s pretty shocking.

George Papp 40:53
It’s interesting. It’s definitely interesting and relevant right now. I guess the last sort of thing we can dive into is just really summarizing, really, the sort of key takeaways you would give my listeners sort of implement these strategies into their lives. And also where where can people find you in regards to your information and get in touch?

Clive De Carle 41:18
Right? Well, when I, you know, for some reason, the authorities have not liked some of the advice I’ve given because I suppose it stops the profits of the pharmaceutical industry. So the government wrote to me about three years ago saying that I cannot tell you the name of my website. It’s just incredible. So I can’t tell you but I could tell you that as most websites do, they end in dot.com. And my name is Clive de Carle. He’s read might add a pinch 20 on your intelligence level, be able to put the two together and work it out.

George Papp 41:59
Sure. Yeah. We’ll include that in the show notes. If you can’t work it out,

Clive De Carle 42:04
They banned me from using the words vitamin C, and Coronavirus, publicly. I’m the only person and as far as I know, that’s got it in writing. I could have fought it. But it’s so funny. I’m not allowed to use the words Coronavirus or vitamin C

George Papp 42:22
do shows you something it tells you something right? Obviously,

I was putting up all sorts of videos on those subjects. And they took them all down within 15 minutes they were YouTube wouldn’t take them down. Now I’m I’m totally vanished from YouTube, they’ve taken me down completely. And finding me on Google is quite difficult as well. You just find hit pieces.

So what what key takeaways can the audience take away

Clive De Carle 42:51
couple of magnesium, we’ve covered vitamin C, we’ve sort of covered just everybody’s low on these things. Another big one, we haven’t covered is iodine. Right. I like a form of iodine called Lugol’s iodine 20 pounds in money last few years worth. So it’s not expensive, which is why the doctors aren’t taught anymore. Doctors used to be taught iodine and it was like, if you went to the GP and they didn’t know what was wrong with you 150 years ago, chances are they would have just given you an iodine as a starting place. So what foods are it in? Well, the most I’ve seen is in seafood, particularly seaweed. Now what countries in the world have the most seaweed in their diet? Well, let’s take Japan. Now, Japan do not have a word or didn’t used to have a word in the Japanese language for the menopause. There was no word for it. It basically didn’t happen in Japan. hot flashes super rare, because they have so much iodine in the seaweed and the sea fish that things like breast cancer, things like thyroid issues didn’t happen, or hardly ever, you know. Whereas we in most parts of the world unless we live right by the sea, we’re not getting enough iodine. And if you’re not getting enough it and things like goiter can happen where the thyroid swells up hoping to grab more it in through the air. Things like hypothyroidism, hyperthyroidism happens. It’s like providing people with problems like hormonal issues, probably lacking in iodine and how many people are lacking in iodine? almost everybody is because if you’re sitting on a new sofa with fire retardants that’s giving off bromine, which is knocking out iodine and if you’re drinking fluoridated or chlorinated water or bathing in it, that’s going to knock out the ideen which makes your thyroid work properly. Iodine make sure temperature control work properly. People say, Oh, you’ve got cold hands, you’ve got hot hands. You’ve got hot flushes. That’s an iodine deficiency that you’re basically looking at. If somebody’s got dry skin, if they walk into a room and can’t remember why they walked in that type of memory thing, very likely to be an iodine deficiency 20 pounds a year to fix. It’s crazy. Anybody who’s had anybody put it this way anybody wants to have a child. If the mother is low on it, the baby will be born with a low IQ, if the mother is clinically low on it, and so much so that a doctor would recognize it. The risk is the baby will be born with mental retardation, right? Serious mental retardation from iodine deficiency, you want intelligent baby, you want not to have many menopausal symptoms. You want to be taking iodine and selenium. They go together Iodine and selenium. Super important. Anybody who’s an addict, they need to know about Selenium. Selenium is just a massively important supplement. Other ones just racing through them. And I started taking vitamin D in winter. And I used to get colds every year, several never got a cold for 15 years, just from we don’t get enough sunshine in winter. So take vitamin D just in winter. I take vitamin K as well, if I’m not eating grass fed animal products. And of course, it’s worth bearing in mind that cows don’t eat grass, cows eat pastures, with Meadows full of wild flowers and herbs and mushrooms. But most cows are fed grass, which isn’t necessarily what they would naturally choose in the wild. Everything’s been messed up food wise, it’s a pretty crazy situation. So I recommend if you can’t grow your own, team up with a local farmer, cut out the middleman, try and find somebody who’s growing without chemical agriculture. Maybe you can buy straight you know, I get chickens from a lady. I get sorry, eggs, from a lady down the road and her chickens are foraging in the wild. It’s all lovely. And I know that I’m getting really healthy, fantastic eggs, and they’re half the price of the shop.

George Papp 47:33
Yeah, yeah, definitely stopped buying from supermarkets, its funding the issue as well. So you know, definitely Carl that those guys shop locally to the places that are independent, and you know, our, I guess aligned with with morals and growing these types of foods. And yeah, it’s, it is that simple. You’ve got to implement the strategies that I know there’s so many you can include, but we can do it slowly. But yeah, like just to sort of wrap it up, I guess vitamin C, D, magnesium, vitamin K, iodine, and selenium. Do your do your own research. Of course. You can also find all this stuff on on clients website. And yeah, we’ll we’ll definitely include that in the show notes. We have to wrap it up there, Clive. Thanks for joining me today amazing insights. And I hope to have you on in the future as well. You know, we can we can discuss a lot more, I’m sure. Make sure you subscribe to the podcast on Spotify. Plus, if you want to prepare your wealth for the great reset by having guidance from experts and and remove your inflation attached savings and income from the banks, check out this episode shownotes for a link to cryptonomousconsulting.com. Click on the members page. Like we’ve said we’ve got a membership now. It’s a new service, which obviously can help you guys just build your wealth or at least preserve it during these times. I know it’s quite a difficult place to maneuver right now. But we seem to have at least the tools and solutions to do so to help you sort of build away from the current system. That’s the plan. So I’ll also put the links to Clive stuff, all of that secret health club, the websites. So definitely check that out. There’s so much useful information there. And it can really help you out I’m sure. And if you’re obviously interested in the Tesla stuff. I’ll probably also like to sort of look further into that. So that sounds really interesting. But yeah, thanks. Thanks, Clive. And yet peace and love to you all, and thanks for listening. Thanks, George. Thanks, everybody.

Clive De Carle 49:40
Thanks

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